Chalfont Green Belt at risk from NSE
Chalfont St. Peter Community and:-             
The NSE's £100M+ Developments on Green Belt land
The NSE Plan:- Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ's)
  Home
Contact   
   Home > Their Plan > FAQ's
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     

These are the questions sense hear most often in connection with the NSE's publicised information, together with our answers.  We will, of course, update this page as we get a better picture of the questions people want the answer to.

Q.  £25M seems an awful lot of money just to meet increased rules on on care standards. Is it a realistic figure?
A.  The NSE's plan is not incremental (i.e. not "over and above" existing facilities). It is instead a raze and rebuild, hence the large capital cost.
  A.  Update Jan 04: The NSE now say £17M for care homes and £8M for peripherals. They have provided no breakdown for the £17M.
    Update May 04: £25M may have seemed 'an awful lot of money'. However, the NSE planning application submitted was to raise £32M. £18M for care homes, £14M for 'other'. 
     
Q.  I've seen that they say they're building within their existing 'building line' and also that a Government review in 1996 recommended their land be excluded from the Green Belt plans. Aren't these valid reasons to build where they suggest?
A.  Where to start! The building line the NSE is relying on takes into account the few isolated cottages on Tate Road, right at the edge of their estate. The nearest other NSE buildings are about 130 yards away, across the field now at risk from urbanisation. Some building line!! As to the 1996 recommendation, it was just that - a recommendation that didn't get adopted.  Perhaps not too surprisingly, as the site is low density with lots of open spaces and many single-story buildings. Even so, sense are unclear as to what the 1996 review suggested was taken out of Green Belt classification - the existing developed site, the developed site out to the 'building line' (which may include Skippings Farm, actually inside the Colne Valley Park boundary) or the entire estate. The two latter possibilities are potentially very threatening indeed.
     
Q.  Is this the full extent of their development plans. Might there be more in the future?
A.  Their documentation states that they have no plans to do further land sales for development 'outside the existing perimeter of their site' in the foreseeable future. But of course that could also have been said three or four years ago, and look at where we are today. They have made no formal commitment on future schemes, whether by timescale or size. Also, as the NSE won't define what they mean by 'the existing perimeter of their site' their statement is of no great value.
   A.  Update May 04: Isn't hindsight wonderful? It now seems that £25M wasn't the full extent of their plans after all. So any assurance now given about future plans . . . . . . 
        
Q.  Do you believe the NSE is really listening to comments and concerns from the public?
A.  To a limited extent. After all, as their planning application proceeds through several stages, the public will be entitled to formally comment/object. Far better then (from their perspective) that they appear to be doing this early. Whether any criticisms affect their proposals to a major degree remains to be seen.
 

A.  Update Jan 04: The NSE have 'shut up shop' since September 2003. There has been only a trickle of information coming out from them, and none of that in respect of the key issues.
    Update May 04: A complete U-turn by sense on this one. No, we do not now believe the NSE listens to the public at all. The petition signed by over 1,800 people in and around Chalfont St Peter has been totally ignored by them. Correspondence to them is largely answered enthusiastically if it concerns their continuing site or residents and is sidestepped where it raises concerns about matters outside their boundaries, e.g. cars, services, amenity, etc.
As far as we can tell, the NSE only pay lip service to public concerns - these are not progressed into actions.

   
Q.  The NSE is publicising its proposals, the community's responses and how it will address and progress these. Isn't this a fair and reasonable attitude by the NSE?
A.  Partially. It's certainly better than nothing, but remember two things. Firstly, their planning process didn't start recently - it's probably been underway since 2001; - the NSE has only taken their ideas to the public when they were ready to do so.  Secondly, the NSE is seeking to control the debate. Their 'Newsletter 1' dated August 2003 quite blatantly "dumbs down" the intensity of feeling in responses from the public and actually attempts to concentrate on matters close to their heart, e.g. so-called "traffic calming" near their property. So, beware the spin!
  A.  Update Jan 04: The NSE's Newsletter No. 2 has carried on where No. 1 left off - it could well have been written at the same time as the 'Outlining The Need For Change' brochure. Perhaps of most interest is that when sense met with the NSE on 17 November 2003 we were advised that several changes would be incorporated into the formal planning application. No such reference was made of this in December's Newsletter No. 2. So much for keeping the public informed!
    Update May 04: sense continue to see the NSE's 'publicity' simply as heavily biased propaganda that they may later use to say they kept the public fully informed. sense do not believe that submitting a £32M planning application without advance public notice (when previously £25M and £25M only had been publicised) constitutes fair publicity of its proposals.
   
   

  Home
Next